About the Blog: We started RVing in 2019, but did not decide to start blogging about our experiences until 2021. So, we have some catching up to do. We’ll sprinkle in some new present-day stories as they happen. But if you have time, start at the beginning. You’ll learn (and hopefully laugh) a lot.
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Broad Mod: RV Macerator Removal: Why Do It?
Despite all of our efforts, our RV sometimes stinks. Like really stinks. Usually, the stink sets in when it’s hot out. What could be causing that stink? Could it be all of the liquids/solids just sitting around in our macerator?
Why Does Our RV Stink Sometimes?
We own a 2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L (same as a Jayco Seneca Prestige 37L), which is a “Super C” RV. For the most part, we try to maintain our gray and black tanks as recommended by the experts. Here’s what we do.
We use LOTS of WATER. We know that the first key to holding tank maintenance is to use plenty of water. Water. Water. Water. And more water. We usually put in about 5 gallons of clean water in our black tank each time we dump.
We keep the valves CLOSED. We also know to keep our holding tanks closed until we are ready to dump them. We try to dump when the tanks are close to full so that the gravity of all of that liquid helps to clean out any solids in the tanks.
We TREAT our holidng tanks nicely. For holding tank treatments, we’ve tried Happy Campers and Unique Digest It. We recently switched to a combination of Calgon (surfactant) and Pine-Sol (disinfectant). We learned about that combination at a Kleentank seminar at a recent Super C rally for Entegra Accolades and Jayco Senecas.
We VENT properly. We’ve check the vent pipes to make sure that the are properly venting past the RV’s roof. We’ve also installed Camco Cyclone Sewer Vent Cover to help draw holding tank odors out of the RV.
Despite all of our efforts, our RV sometimes stinks. Like really stinks. Usually, the stink sets in when it’s hot out. What could be causing that stink? Could it be all of the liquids/solids just sitting around in our macerator?
What is an RV Macerator?
The wet bay in our Entegra Accolade (same as a Jayco Seneca), including the macerator.
A macerator is a device used in RVs to break down solid waste and pump it into the RV's wastewater holding tank or directly into a sewage hookup. Like any piece of equipment, macerators come with their own set of pros and cons:
Pros of Having a Macerator in an RV:
1. Efficient Waste Management. Macerators can break down solid waste into smaller particles, making it easier to move through the RV's plumbing system. This can help prevent clogs and ensure more efficient waste disposal.
2. Versatility. Macerators can be used to pump waste uphill or over long distances, which can be particularly useful in situations where the RV is parked far from a sewage hookup or the ground is not level.
3. Reduced Odor. The maceration process theoretically can help reduce unpleasant odors associated with waste disposal, as the smaller particles are less likely to release strong smells.
4. Convenience. Using a macerator can make the dumping process quicker and more convenient. An RVer can often connect a hose directly to the macerator for easy waste transfer.
Cons of Having a Macerator in an RV:
1. Complexity. Macerators introduce additional complexity to the RV's plumbing system. This means there are more components that could potentially fail, leading to maintenance or repair issues. Have you ever listened to one of those things grind and pump?
2. Space Requirements. Installing a macerator may take up valuable storage space in your RV's storage compartments.
3. Noise. Macerators can be noisy when in operation. I doubt we disturb the neighbors, but still….
4. Maintenance. Regular maintenance is required to keep the macerator functioning correctly. Neglecting maintenance can lead to breakdowns and costly repairs.
5. Limited Flow Rate. Macerators have a limited flow rate, which means it can take longer to empty the holding tanks compared to traditional gravity dumping.
6. Power Consumption. Macerators typically require some electricity to operate, but that is minimal. This was not a real concern of ours.
7. Cost. Macerators can be expensive to purchase and install. That really wasn’t a factor for us because a macerator came factory-installed in our RV and was not an option.
8. Smell. This is just a theory, but there is a lot of waste that sits in the bottom of the macerator. Could this be causing the smell?
Why Did We Remove our RV Macerator?
For us, the cons of having a macerator outweighed the pros. Plus, because our old RV did not have a macerator and we got along just fine, we really didn’t see a need for it.
In this video, Kasie decided to tackle removing our factory installed macerator.
Below are most of the parts that she used for the macerator removal project.
Addendum: After the video, Kasie decided to install a Rhino Blaster to help flush the tanks. To make a little bit more room for the Rhino Blaster, she installed a two-way flange. That’s basically the alternative design that she mentioned in the video. What I like about the design is that the stinky slinky itself never has to go inside the exterior bay.
After removing our macerator, Kasie installed this two-way flange to make more room for a Rhino Blaster.
Another coupler is located outside of the wet bay. This is where the sewer hose (stinky slinky) is connected.
Did Removing Our RV’s Macerator Help Get Rid of Smells?
It’s hard to know if removing the macerator helped with the stink. Since Kasie completed the macerator removal, the temperatures have been moderate, but so far so good. I’ll try to update this blog once the weather gets warmer. However, please don’t hesitate to drop me a line at classcbroads@gmail.com, and I will let you know the “real time” verdict on whether removing the macerator helped get rid of our RV’s smell. Regardless, we do know that the extra space is welcome AND we no longer worry about the macerator breaking. Sometimes simple is best, and overall we are happy not having a macerator in our RV.
DISCLAIMERS: PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RIG! We are NOT affiliated with any of these manufacturers and just want to share our experiences about the products and project in this blog. We do get a very small commission at no cost to you if you use one of the Amazon Links (a/k/a beer money).
Casey Illinois: BIG THINGS
If you are looking for an amazing roadside attraction (actually over THIRTY of them), then you won’t want to miss Casey, Illinois. This town of less than 3000 people is home to 12 of the LARGEST things in the WORLD.
BIG THINGS.
SMALL TOWN.
Casey, Illinois.
If you are looking for an amazing roadside attraction (actually over THIRTY of them), then you won’t want to miss Casey, Illinois. This town of less than 3000 people is home to 12 of the LARGEST items in the WORLD.
World’s Largest Mailbox in Casey, Illinois
WHAT ARE THE LARGEST THINGS IN CASEY, ILLINOIS?
1. World's Largest Wind Chime (June 22, 2012)
2. World's Largest Golf Tee (January 29, 2013)
3. World's Largest Pitchfork (October 20, 2015)
4. World’s Largest Rocking Chair (October 20, 2015)
5. World's Largest Clogs / Wooden Shoes (October 20, 2015)
6. World's Largest Mailbox (October 20, 2015)
7. World's Largest Gavel (Marshall, Illinois) (August 20, 2019)
8. World's Largest Truck Key (September 28, 2019)
9. World's Largest Barbershop Pole (September 28, 2019)
10. World's Largest Teeter Totter (September 28, 2019)
11. World's Largest Golf Club (August 20, 2019)
12. World's Largest Swizzle Spoon (August 20, 2019)
My wife, Kasie, loved Casey — not just because of the shared homophonic name, but also because TWO of the LARGEST things involved her favorite sport, golf!
World’s Largest Golf Club / Golf Driver in Casey, Illinois
World’s Largest Golf Tee in Casey Illinois
All of Guiness Book of World Records were achieved by Jim Bolin, who was born and raised in Casey, Illinois. He wanted to find a way to put his home town on the map and revitalize it. I grew up in a small town (Belleville Kansas), and I know first-hand what a struggle it is to keep communities like Casey alive. We spent a couple of days exploring the town so his idea clearly worked. (Belleville, are you listening?)
But wait. Casey is also home to other BIG THINGS:
Big Bookworm in Casey Illinois
13. Big Antlers
14. Big Bat
15. Big Birdcage
16. Big Bookworm
17. Big Cactus
18. Big Crochet Hook (former record holder)
19. Big Ear of Corn
20. Big Glider Plane
21. Big Horseshoe
22. Big Ice Cream Cone
23. Big Knitting Needles (former record holder)
24. Big Minion
25. Big Mouse Trap
26. Big Nail Puzzle
27. Big Pencil
28. Big Piggie Bank
29. Big Pizza Slicer
30. Big Rocking Horse
31. Big Spinning Top
32. Big Taco
33. Big Wooden Token
34. Big Yardstick
Big Pencil in Casey, Illinois. Check out that tip!
Kissing a large Minion in Casey Illinois
Big Things. Small Town. Casey, Illinois
I should also mention that the people of Casey were incredibly nice. The local drivers always seemed to always give a “two finger” wave as they yielded to tourists like us crossing the street. The residents were more than happy talk to us about their town, the upcoming Popcorn Festival, and of course, the weather. You won’t go wrong by asking a local “How’s the corn lookin’ this year?”
HOW DO YOU FIND THE BIG THINGS in CASEY?
The Casey Chamber of Commerce created a map of all of the BIG/LARGE things in Casey. Paper copies of the map is also available at many of local businesses as well. The town of Casey, Jim, and others are continuing to add other BIG/LARGE items to their collection so make sure and check out the Big Things Small Town Facebook page for the latest and greatest. We saw that the world’s largest Pac-Man was coming soon. That means we will have to make another stop in Casey in the future!
Northern Indiana - Things RVers Should Know
Roughly 80% of the world’s RVs are manufactured in northern Indiana. In fact, the region is known as the “RV Capital of the World.”
As RV enthusiasts, we were SUPER excited to travel to northern Indiana in the fall of 2023. We spent 12 days at the Shipshewana South Campground, which included the inaugural Super C rally for Entegra Accolades and Jayco Senecas. We then spent four nights at the Jayco-Entegra factory in Middlebury to have some warranty work performed on our 2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L. That left plenty of time to explore the area.
Roughly 80% of the world’s RVs are manufactured in northern Indiana. In fact, the region is known as the “RV Capital of the World.”
As RV enthusiasts, we were SUPER excited to travel to northern Indiana in the fall of 2023. We spent 12 days at the Shipshewana South Campground, which included the inaugural Super C rally for Entegra Accolades and Jayco Senecas. We then spent four nights at the Jayco-Entegra factory in Middlebury to have some warranty work performed on our 2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L. That left plenty of time to explore the area.
How are the Roads in Northern Indiana for RVers?
Amish horse and buggie on the road in northern Indiana
The one thing to know about northern Indiana is that there are horse and buggies everywhere. Buggies on the road. Buggies in the parking lots. And buggies parked at homes.
If you are taking your RV anywhere other than the major highways, be prepared to SLOW DOWN for all of the buggies.
Don’t be in a hurry either.
Why are there so many horse-drawn buggies in northern Indiana?
Learning about the Anabaptists at the Menno-Hof Museum in Shipshewana Indiana
Northern Indiana is home to a large population of Amish and Mennonites. The Amish (and perhaps some conservative Mennonites) are the ones who drive the buggies.
Both Amish and Mennonite religions originated with a Protestant sect called the Anabaptists. They believe that baptism was a choice that could only be made by adults and disavow infant baptism. They also stress a simple, less worldly, way of life.
Menno-Hof Museum in Shipshewana Indiana
We learned all about the history of the Anabaptists and how they came to America at the Menno-Hof Museum, which was located just a few minutes from our campground in Shipshewana. The first part of the museum formal, where we traveled through a series of immersive rooms that explained the origins of the Anabaptists, their immigration to America, and the continuing persecution of their faith in the New World. The museum focuses on three sects: the Amish, the Mennonites, and the Hutterites. After that, we spent well over an hour meandering through a number of highly informative exhibits in the rest of the museum.
Perhaps my favorite part of the museum was a video of the “barn-raising” of the Menno-Hof museum itself. Watching these people build the museum from scratch truly amazing.
If you like museums (like me), the Menno-Hof is a must stop. The museum is also a Harvest Host venue so RVers can over-night there if they want.
If you want to see more of the Menno-Hof Museum, check out this video excerpt.
What is a Quilt Garden?
Northern Indiana is also known for its craftsmanship, everything from furniture to food (think cheese, popcorn, and pretzels) to quilts. But northern Indiana takes the idea of quilting to the next level. We saw a number of Quilt Gardens and Quilt Murals along the Heritage Trail, which is 90-mile loop connecting the towns of Elkhart, Bristol, Middlebury, Shipshewana, Honeyville, Goshen, Napannee, and Wakarusa. Many of the quilts change each year so this route is something we could do each time we visit!
“Welcome to our Pad” Quilt Garden at the Elkhart Environmental Center on the Heritage Trail
“Tree of Life” Quilt Garden at the Krider World’s Fair Garden in Middlebury on the Heritage Trail in northern Indiana
“The Parasol” Quilt Garden at the Ruthmere in Elkhart Indiana on the Heritage Trail in northern Indiana
Pro Tip: The Quilt Gardens are best seen from above. Check out our drone footage of the Quilt Gardens in our video!
How was the RV Museum & Hall of Fame?
Of all of the attractions located in northern Indiana, I was looking forward the RV & MH Museum and RV/MH Hall of Fame the most. Frankly, I was little disappointed.
The museum opened in the 1990s, but moved to its current location in 2007. After paying our $20 admission fee, we were invited to watch a short film about the RV industry in northern Indiana and the history of the museum itself. Unfortunately, the film quality doesn’t look like been updated since the mid-2000s. The museum recently underwent a multi-million dollar expansion, but apparently the budget did not include decent A/V equipment.
While there are dozens of vintage RVs on display at the RV Museum, the lighting is horrible. We were prohibited from going inside most of the RVs to get a good look – which is understandable for some of the really old fragile RVs, but still….
The Keep Your Daydream (KYD) bus from their Route 66 series at the RV-MH Museum in Elkhart Indiana
For what it’s worth, my favorite RV on display was the Bluebird Wanderlodge that Marc and Tricia from Keep Your Daydream renovated to travel Route 66. It was fun to sit in there and recall their adventures.
Nearly half of the museum is devoted to Manufactured Homes. I mistakenly thought that the “MH” in the title of the building meant “motorhomes.” Oh well.
The second floor of the museum contains a library and the Hall of Fame. Its’ basically wall after wall of RV pioneers, businessmen, and innovators. I’m sure that all of these HOFers made significant contributions to the RV world. But what was striking to me was the lack of diversity. Nearly all of the Hall of Famers are men. And, I don’t recall seeing a person of color at all. (Here’s a funny video excerpt where I try to spot the diversity in all of the photos.) In all seriousness, I am hopeful that as more women like us and people of color get into RVing, that the HOF will reflect that trend.
RV-MH Hall of Fame in Elkhart Indiana. Can you count the women?
RV-MH Hall of Fame in the early 2000s. I count one woman inductee and no persons of color.
At $20, the RV-MH Museum / Hall of Fame is marginally worth the trip but I doubt we ever visit again.
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Below is the FULL video about our warranty work and our time in northern Indiana.
RV Rally for Seneca and Accolade Super Cs
In August 2023, we attended our first RV rally…EVER! The rally was organized by a handful of owners of Jayco Seneca and Entegra Accolade Super Cs and was held in Shipshewana, Indiana. We weren’t sure what to expect, but were hoping that it would be SUPER!
In August 2023, we attended our first RV rally…EVER! The rally was organized by a handful of owners of Jayco Seneca and Entegra Accolade Super Cs and was held in Shipshewana, Indiana. We weren’t sure what to expect, but were hoping that it would be SUPER!
While Kasie and I have a YouTube channel and I write this blog, the truth is that we are both introverts at heart (her more so than me). I enjoy learning and sharing what I learn, but I was nervous about attending an RV rally. We had virtually met several of the attendees in some of the Facebook groups pertaining to Entegra Accolades and Jayco Senecas. But still, what would it be like to meet some of these folks in person? And what, if anything, would we learn? (Spoiler: A LOT. And, and the rally was indeed SUPER!)
If you want to know more about Entegra Accolade and Jayco Seneca Super Cs, I highly recommend that you join one or more of these Facebook groups:
These groups are all “private” so you will have to answer a few questions from the administrators before you can join.
PS: If you don’t know what a Super C RV is, check out this blog.
Broad Mods: Four Easy (and Not so Easy) Upgrades to the S2RV Chassis
As much as we love our Freightliner S2RV chassis, we made four upgrades to help improve its drivability: (1) Roadmaster Exact Center Steering Stabilizer; (2) Gabriel Shocks; (3) Sumo Springs; and (4) Motion Control Units (MCUs). Did these really help?
Like most owners of Jayco Senecas and Entegra Accolades, we love our RV. Our 2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L is built on the Freightliner S2RV chassis, and for the most part, it’s like driving a truck. Okay, it’s a BIG truck…..a VERY BIG TRUCK.
As much as we love our rig, it seems like all of the cool kids in the online forums (Brian Miller, I’m talking to you!) make some modifications to help improve the suspension and drivability of the S2RV chassis. Kasie decided to join the cool kid club by making a quadfecta of upgrades, namely installation of:
(1) Roadmaster Exact Center Steering Stabilizer;
(2) Gabriel Shocks;
(3) Sumo Springs; and
(4) Motion Control Units.
We thought we would share her experiences about these modifications in case you are thinking of tackling anyone of these projects yourself.
DISCLAIMERS: PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RIG! We are NOT affiliated with any of these manufacturers and just want to share our experiences about the installation so that you can help judge for yourself whether these are projects you want to tackle. We do get a very small commission at no cost to you if you use one of the Amazon Links (a/k/a beer money).
Roadmaster Exact Center Steering Stabilizer
Even though the S2RV chassis drives relatively well, there’s always the chance of a blow-out. In general, a steering stabilizer will help maintain control of the vehicle in the event of crosswinds, rut tracking, road edging or a tire blowout. Well, at least that is what the manufacturers claim.
As you’ll see in the video, the Roadmaster instructions were confusing at times and we contacted both E-Trailer (where we purchased the steering stabilizer from) and Roadmaster on a couple of occasions to make sure we were doing things correctly. And, most importantly, we had to figure out which Roadmaster Exact Center steering stabilizer was truly suitable for our S2RV chassis? (Spoiler: it’s the 481300A).
Level of Difficulty: Moderate
Our raffle prize at the Jayco-Entegra Super C Rally
Addendum: After making this video, we attended the inaugural Jayco-Entegra Super C Rally, where we talked to more of the cool kid Super C owners about steering stabilizers. Then, after winning a $150 gift certificate from Henderson's Line-up at one of the nightly raffles and speaking further with Robert Henderson, we are probably going to put that money towards the purchase of a Safe-T-Plus Steering Stabilizer. Stay tuned for future updates on whether we think the Safe-T-Plus device is better than the Roadmaster Exact Center steering stabilizer.
Gabriel Shocks (Goodbye Sachs Shocks)
In this video, Kasie decides to remove the factory Sachs shock absorbers from our Freightliner S2RV chassis and replace them with Gabriel shocks. She’s never changed a shock before (and neither have I) – let alone shocks on a motorhome.
Unfortunately, the shock project wasn’t easy, and it took a couple of days (with some beers and stops in between) to finish. If you are thinking of replacing the S2RV shocks on your own, you might want to watch this video so you can judge for yourself whether you think you can do it.
*Front Shocks: Gabriel 89431 (751 lbs of rebound/211 lbs of compression set on firm)
*Rear Shocks: Gabriel 89443 (1206 lbs of rebound / 466 lbs of compression set on firm)
Please consult with the manufacturer about what shocks are appropriate for your rig. For example, the Gabriel 89449 front shocks have 1519lb of rebound/324 lbs of compression set on firm, and we understand that others have installed those shocks on their rig.
Level of Difficulty: Hard
Kasie after installing Gabriel shocks on our Freightliner S2RV chassis
Sumo Springs
In this video, Kasie installs Sumo Springs on the front of the S2RV chassis. Since making this modification (along installation of with the MCUs), we can tell you that the RIDE IS MUCH IMPROVED, especially when turning on to uneven streets or driveways.
This is a pretty straightforward DIY project.
Part Number: SSF-503-40.
Level of Difficulty: Easy to Moderate
Motion Control Units
The last upgrade to the Freightliner S2RV chassis that Kasie decided to try was the addition of motion control units (MCUs) for the rear air bags. Since making this modification (along with installation of the Sumo Springs), we can tell you that the RIDE IS MUCH IMPROVED, especially when turning on to uneven streets or driveways.
This is a pretty straightforward DIY project.
Part Number: SSE5065 SuperSteer® Motion Control Unit for 3/8” Airlines (Over 30,0000 GVWR)
Level of Difficulty: Easy
Conclusion: Do These Mods Work?
These four modifications to our Freightliner S2RV chassis certainly improved our overall ride. As a passenger, I now spend less time saying “whoa!” on our trips than before the upgrades. I think the most noticeable difference is on the turns to uneven streets and driveways as mentioned above.
Kasie made ALL these four modifications to our S2RV chassis over the course of a few weeks when we were stationary (I was recovering from my second retinal detachment surgery). As such, we didn’t have the ability to drive our Entegra Accolade after each modification to really test how well each modification worked. It is probably worth nothing that in the all of online forums, all of the cool kids seem to agree that these modifications are worth doing, and we’ve found nothing that counters those opinions.
Lastly, we just wanted to thank Brian Miller for answering a few questions and Bob Peach (at Wandering Peaches) for his install videos on the Gabriel shocks and Sumo Springs. The Seneca/Accolade Super C community is truly one of the best around!
Broad Mod: MCU Installation
In today’s “Broad Mod” installment, Kasie decides to add motion control units (MCUs) for the rear air bags on our Freightliner S2RV chassis (2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L) to help improve the ride. Since making this adjustment, we can tell you that the RIDE IS MUCH IMPROVED, especially when turning on to uneven streets or driveways.
This is a pretty straightforward DIY project.
In today’s “Broad Mod” installment, Kasie decides to add motion control units (MCUs) for the rear air bags on our Freightliner S2RV chassis (2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L) to help improve the ride. Since making this adjustment, we can tell you that the RIDE IS MUCH IMPROVED, especially when turning on to uneven streets or driveways.
This is a pretty straightforward DIY project.
Part Number: SSE5065 SuperSteer® Motion Control Unit for 3/8” Airlines (Over 30,0000 GVWR)
DISCLAIMERS: PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RIG! We are NOT affiliated with any of these manufacturers and just want to share our experiences about the installation so that you can help judge for yourself whether this is a project you want to tackle. We do get a very small commission at no cost to you if you use one of the Amazon Links (a/k/a beer money).
Broad Mod: Sumo Springs Install (Freightliner S2RV Chassis)
In today’s “Broad Mod” installment, Kasie decides to remove install Sumo Springs on our our Freightliner S2RV chassis (2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L) to help improve the ride. Since making this adjustment, we can tell you that the RIDE IS MUCH IMPROVED, especially when turning on to uneven streets or driveways.
Remember: Please do your own research and consult with the experts. We are not responsible for your rig!)
Part Number: SSF-503-40.
In today’s “Broad Mod” installment, Kasie decides to install Sumo Springs on our our Freightliner S2RV chassis (2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L) to help improve the ride. Since making this adjustment, we can tell you that the RIDE IS MUCH IMPROVED, especially when turning on to uneven streets or driveways.
This is a pretty straightforward DIY project.
Part Number: SSF-503-40.
DISCLAIMERS: PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RIG! We are NOT affiliated with any of these manufacturers and just want to share our experiences about the installation so that you can help judge for yourself whether this is a project you want to tackle. We do get a very small commission at no cost to you if you use one of the Amazon Links (a/k/a beer money).
Broad Mod - How to Change Shocks on a Freightliner S2RV Chassis
In today’s “Broad Mod” installment, Kasie decides to remove the factory Sachs shock absorbers from our Freightliner S2RV chassis and replace them with Gabriel shocks. She’s never changed a shock before (and neither have I) – let alone shocks on an RV -- but lot of people who own our same S2RV chassis DIY’d this project so she decided to give it a shot.
In today’s “Broad Mod” installment, Kasie decides to remove the factory Sachs shock absorbers from our S2RV chassis and replace them with Gabriel shocks. She’s never changed a shock before (and neither have I) – let alone shocks on an RV -- but lot of people who own our same S2RV chassis DIY’d this project so she decided to give it a shot.
Unfortunately, the project wasn’t easy and it took a couple of days (with some stops in between) to finish. If you are thinking of replacing the S2RV shocks on your own, you might want to watch the video below so you can judge for yourself whether you think you can do it.
Parts List:
Front Shocks: Gabriel 89431 (751 lbs of rebound/211 lbs of compression set on firm)
Rear Shocks: Gabriel 89443 (1206 lbs of rebound / 466 lbs of compression set on firm)
Please consult with the manufacturer about what shocks are appropriate for your rig. For example, the Gabriel 89449 front shocks have 1519lb of rebound/324 lbs of compression set on firm, and we understand that others have installed those shocks on their rig.
DISCLAIMERS: PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RIG! We are NOT affiliated with any of these manufacturers and just want to share our experiences about the installation so that you can help judge for yourself whether this is a project you want to tackle. We do get a very small commission at no cost to you if you use one of the Amazon Links (a/k/a beer money).
Broad Mod: How to Install a Roadmaster Exact Center Steering Stabilizer (Freightliner S2RV Chassis)
Although we are NOT RV experts, we decided to tackle the installation of the Roadmaster Exact Center Steering Stabilizer ourselves. Correction: KASIE decided to tackle the project. I just stood around and offered moral support.
When we bought our new RV (a 2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L, which is basically the same as the Jayco Seneca Prestige 37L), one of the first upgrades that we wanted to install was a steering stabilizer. Even though the Freightliner S2RV chassis seems to ride great, there’s always the chance of a blow-out. In general, a steering stabilizer will help maintain control of the vehicle in the event of crosswinds, rut tracking, road edging or a tire blowout. Well, at least that is what the manufacturers claim.
Although we are NOT RV experts, we decided to tackle the installation of the Roadmaster Exact Center Steering Stabilizer ourselves. Correction: KASIE decided to tackle the project. I just stood around and offered moral support.
As you’ll see in the video, the Roadmaster instructions were confusing at times, and we contacted both E-Trailer (where we purchased the steering stabilizer from) and Roadmaster on a couple of occasions to make sure we were doing things correctly. And, most importantly, we had to figure out which Roadmaster Exact Center steering stabilizer was truly suitable for our S2RV chassis? (Spoiler: it’s the 481300A)
We are not affiliated with Roadmaster or E-Trailer. We just wanted to share with you our experiences about the installation.
DISCLAIMERS: PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RIG! We are NOT affiliated with any of these manufacturers and just want to share our experiences about the installation so that you can help judge for yourself whether this is a project you want to tackle. We do get a very small commission at no cost to you if you use one of the Amazon Links (a/k/a beer money).
How to Hike Angels Landing: 9 Steps & 12 Tips
Hiking Angels Landing in Zion National Park is one of those “bucket list” items for a lot of people, including me. I watched several YouTube videos and read dozens of blogs in preparing for the hike. The hike itself didn’t disappoint, but I wish that I would have known more before I decided to do the hike.
Here’s nine steps and 12 tips for successfully hiking Angels Landing.
Hiking Angels Landing in Zion National Park is one of those “bucket list” items for a lot of people, including me. I watched several YouTube videos and read dozens of blogs in preparing for the hike. The hike itself didn’t disappoint, but I wish that I would have known more before I decided to do the hike.
Here’s nine steps and 12 tips for successfully hiking Angels Landing.
Fun Fact: Angels Landing was earlier known as the Temple of Aeolus. In Greek mythology, Aeolus was the ruler of winds.
1. Get Lucky: The Permit Lottery
A sign tells us that we must show our permit and ID upon request to hike Angels Landing
To hike to the summit of Angels Landing, hikers must first obtain a permit from the National Parks Service. It wasn’t always this way. The Angels Landing permitting system was first implemented in 2022 as a pilot program.
There are few caveats about the Angels Landing permit worth mentioning.
First, the permit is only required for the “scary” Spine/Hogsback
chained section to the summit (the last 0.5 miles). You can hike the rest of the Angels Landing trail without a permit.
Second, many people try to hike to the Angels Landing summit without a permit. We could hear several people openly talking about their decision to forego the permit during our hike.
Third, hiking without a permit is punishable by a fine of up to $5,000 and/or six months in jail. See 36 CFR 1.6 (permits); 36 CFR 1.3 (penalties).
So, how do you obtain an Angels Landing Permit?
You must enter NPS permit lottery through recreation.gov. And, you’ve got to be LUCKY!
There are two types of permit lotteries.
Advance permit lottery. For example, to hike in the summer months (June 1 to August 31), you must enter the lottery in April.
Day-before permit lottery. That’s exactly what it sounds like. On the day before you want to hike (NOT the day of your hike), you can enter that lottery.
Each lottery application costs $6/application (nonrefundable) and can over up to six people. When you enter the permit lottery, you must also select either a “before 9 am” or “after 9 am” start time. That start time is when hikers must be at the Grotto Trailhead (Shuttle Stop #6).
What are the Odds of Getting a Permit to Hike Angels Landing?
The NPS does publish how people visit Zion each month. However, so far, to my knowledge, the NPS has not published how many people are granted Angels Landing permits on any given day. I’ve read that their target is to grant permits for around 800 hikers. An NPS spokesperson also said that 200,000 people hiked Angels Landing in 2022. By extrapolating that data, I estimated how many people might have permits on a given day. Keep in mind that the weekends are likely to much busier than weekdays.
|
JAN |
FEB |
MAR |
APR |
MAY |
JUN |
JUL |
AUG |
SEP |
OCT |
NOV |
DEC |
TOTAL |
|
|
Total Visitors |
139,827 |
168,499 |
446,308 |
491,625 |
539,172 |
569,975 |
548,636 |
437,134 |
423,654 |
459,697 |
291,044 |
176,846 |
4,692,417 |
|
3% |
4% |
10% |
10% |
11% |
12% |
12% |
9% |
9% |
10% |
6% |
4% |
||
|
Estimated Angels Landing Hikers (Monthly) |
5960 |
7182 |
19023 |
20954 |
22981 |
24293 |
23384 |
18632 |
18057 |
19593 |
12405 |
7538 |
200,000 |
|
Estimated Angels Landing Hikers (Daily) |
192 |
256 |
614 |
698 |
741 |
810 |
754 |
601 |
602 |
632 |
413 |
243 |
If you are lucky enough to win the permit lottery, the NPS then charges the winner an additional $3/person for the permit.
Kasie and I each entered the day-before lottery on a Sunday in June. We figured that our odds would be better for a weekday (e.g., Monday hike). I won and felt pretty lucky. Overall, the permit process cost us $18 (two $6 permit lottery applications and two $3 permits).
Many people are not that lucky though. One set of neighbors at our RV park entered the lottery daily for a week and did not receive a permit.
Fun Fact: Frederick Vining Fisher, an Ogden resident and pastor of the First Methodist Episcopal Church of Ogden, named Angels Landing and two other Zion Canyon landmarks during a visit there in 1916.
2. The Grotto: Where Dreams Take Flight
The hike to Angels Landing begins at Zion Shuttle Bus Stop #6 (the Grotto).
Once you get your permit, your epic escapade to Angels Landing commences at the Grotto (Stop #6). We arrived just a few minutes after our 9:00 am start time. At the trailhead, we could already start to feel the energy of eager hikers, fueled by a blend of anticipation and caffeine. Yes, this was where my dream of hiking Angels Landing would begin to take flight!
Within a few yards, we encountered a park ranger who verified that we had a permit, verified my ID, and then checked us in for our hike. Several other hikers strolled by the ranger without checking in though. It’s not clear to me why the ranger was stationed at the trailhead, instead of just before the Spine (Hogsback) chained section of the hike.
3. Don’t Discount the West Rim Trail: It’s a Climb
The West Rim Trail to Angels Landing includes a number of switchbacks with steep grades.
While the Spine (Hogsback) is perhaps the most famous park of the Angels Landing hike, don’t be fooled by the rest of it.
From the Grotto Trailhead, you start out slowly on the West Rim Trail along the Virgin River, but the grades soon start to increase. About 1 mile into the hike, you’ll encounter a set of switchbacks where the grade reaches over 30% at times.
Take a moment to enjoy the views of the Virgin River and snap a few selfies of yourself panting.
Fun Fact: There’s no apostrophe in Angels Landing. Since 1890, U.S. Board on Geographic Names does not allow apostrophes in official names (with five exceptions).
4. Cool off in Refrigerator Canyon (and Keep your Eyes Open)
Mexican Spotted Owls live in the canyon on the trail to Angels Landing
As you venture further along the West Rim Trail, you will soon find solace in the cool embrace of Refrigerator Canyon. Because the canyon walls tower over you on both sides, this section of the trail is shaded nearly all of the time. Comparatively, this part of the trail is relatively flat. However, there are a few cool hidey-holes tucked into the canyon sides to explore.
On our hike, the NPS had posted a few signs to ask visitors to be quiet because Mexican Spotted Owls, which are protected by the Endangered Species Act, live in the canyon. We kept our eyes out for the owls, but didn’t see any.
5. Curse & Bless Walter's Wiggles!
Part of Walters Wiggles at Angels Landing in Zion National Park
Prepare to channel your inner mountaineer as you ascend the famous Walters Wiggles. Named after Walter Ruesch, who was the first superintendent for Zion National Park, these 21 paved switchbacks were constructed in 1926. I found myself blessing Mr. Ruesch for having the vision to create these switchbacks, but I also cursed the man a little as I made the climb. The elevation gain on Walters Wiggles is only around 300 feet, but it feels like much more! Trust me, you will embrace the challenge with each bend, relishing the rewards of both panoramic views and burning quads.
Fun Fact: The first recorded ascent of Angel's Landing was made in 1923 by a group of individuals led by Park Ranger Harold Russell. Russell didn’t have the advantage of Walters Wiggles, which were built in 1926.
6. Scout Lookout: Make a Decision
Right after Walter’s Wiggles, the pavement will end and you will encounter the perhaps the most mentally challenging part of your hike: Scout Lookout. Here, you can catch your breath and revel in the awe-inspiring vistas that unfold before you. BUT, this vantage point offers a glimpse of the adventure that lies ahead. YOU MUST NOW DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO HIKE TO THE SUMMIT OF ANGELS LANDING!
Importantly, it’s okay to turn around here. It’s okay to wait and watch your friends go on without you. It’s okay to just sit and revel in the view and not go further. You have to do what is right for you.
Scout Lookout is a decision point for other reasons as well. By now, you’ve probably drank a lot of water on your hike, and you should probably decide whether you need to use the restroom since it is the only one on the trail. (The restrooms are reportedly pretty gross so we did not venture in them).
Fun Fact: The restrooms on Angels Landing must be emptied manually on “Helipoo Day.” Yes, that’s right. The NPS hires a waste removal company to haul the waste from Scout Lookout in 500-lb drum barrels. The trail is closed on those days.
A turn-around point is Scout Lookout. It’s 0.5 miles from there to Angels Landing.
View of the Restrooms and part of Scout Lookout from Angels Landing
At this point, you should also decide whether you want to have a snack. If you do, you are likely to have several wood squirrels and rock squirrels attempt to join you.
7. The Spine a/k/a Hogsback: Ch-Ch-Ch-Chain-es!
Along The Spine, we point to the Summit of Angels Landing
The last half-mile of the hike is known as The Spine or Hogsback (Hog’s Back). While the assent is only about 500 feet, this is where you need to tighten those hiking shoes, embrace the challenge, and immerse yourself in the magic of Angel's Landing.
There are a couple of things to note about The Spine:
You will need a permit.
There may or may not be a park ranger near the base of The Spine checking permits. On the day we traversed it, there was no park ranger.
You will be scared.
As you, you begin to traverse The Spine of Angel's Landing, adrenaline will start to course through your veins. From a distance, parts of the trail look razor-thin. It is. The trail is probably around 2-3 feet across at some points with vertigo-inducing drop-offs. HOWEVER, it helped me to think of how we drive 75 mph down highway with only a few feet between vehicles on a daily basis.
You will use the chains.
I don’t care how much experience you have hiking; you will need to grab on to the chains on portions of The Spine. For inexperienced hikers like me, I really relied on the chains at the beginning of my hike, but then loosened my grip as I felt more comfortable with the climb.
You will see clear paths.
For the more dangerous parts of the climb, there are cutaways in the rock that help you know where to place each foot. I just kept thinking “one-foot-in-front-of-the-other.”
You will scramble.
Parts of the trail include lots of rock scrambling, but the path doesn’t vary much.
You will look down.
There’s no avoiding looking down. Those sheer cliffs were daunting at first, but after a while, I started to embrace majesty of the mountain and enjoy the view.
You will feel crowded at times.
Even though the number of people hiking Angels Landing is limited, there will bottlenecks at times. We would sometimes have to wait for 10 or more people to come down a section of The Spine before we felt we could start going up the same section. On other occasions, a “down-hiker” would have to maneuver around an “up-hiker” holding on to the chains or vis versa. For the most part, people were patient and respectful as they encountered each other.
You will develop relationships.
Because it’s difficult to pass people on The Spine, you may be by a group of hikers much of the way to the summit. You’ll probably bond with those folks over the challenge of hiking in some way. Learn to love your neighbors.
You will need a sense of humor.
Hikers on Angels Landing make all sorts of funny comments and jokes along the way. “Are we there yet?” is a popular refrain. “I thought there was an elevator here” was my favorite.
HIking The Spine (a/k/a Hogsback) of Angels Landing
Not-So-Fun Fact: In the last 20 years, somewhere between 15-20 deaths have reportedly happened on the Angels Landing hike.
8. The Summit: Celebrate a Triumph Beyond Compare
Panoramic view of Big Bend from Angels Landing
At long last, you will ascend to the summit of Angel's Landing—an achievement that demands celebration and reverence. As you stand atop this majestic perch, it may feel like the world unfolds at your feet. To get some perspective of just how high you’ve traveled, the shuttle buses appear smaller than Hot-Wheels.
And boy, talk about views. In one direction, you can look down upon Big Bend (Stop #8) and see the Virgin River snake around The Organ toward the Weeping Rock trailhead (Stop #7). In another direction, you will see the Great White Throne looking down upon the Grotto trailhead (Stop #6) and an outline of the West Rim Trail that you have just traversed. Still, in another direction, you can spy on the nervous hikers congregating at Scott Lookout and watch others going up the mountain ask themselves “are we there yet?”
9. The Descent: Don’t underestimate it
Of course, what comes up must come down. People honestly overlook this part of the 5.4-mile hike.
While the climb down from Angels Landing is certainly easier on most people’s muscles, the drop-offs look even more menacing on the way down. Parts of the trail are sandy, and at least for me, I found myself slipping on several occasions. Some hikers turned around so that they were facing the summit and descended the mountain like they were climbing down a ladder.
Not surprisingly, the descent is much quicker than the climb. Our hike took 4.5 hours overall: about 3 hours for the ascent and 1.5 hours for the return trip. Of that time, our smartwatch told us that we were moving for only about 2.2 hours. That’s A LOT OF DOWNTIME. You can expect significant stopping and starting on the way to Angels Landing, whether for photos, to catch your breath, or to wait patiently as you make the climb up The Spine
TIPS FOR HIKING ANGELS LANDING
If you’ve read this far, there’s a good chance you are actually going to hike to Angels Landing. Here’s also 12 tips for make your journey better.
Kasie at Angels Landing in Zion National Park. We used GoPros to capture most of our adventure, but did manage to get a few photos.
Bring a GoPro
You are going to want to take photos or videos on your hike to Angels Landing. However, you are going to need your hands to grab onto the chains and rock scramble on the trek up The Spine. Taking a selfie with your phone isn’t advisable. Moreover, it’s impolite to ask a bunch of hikers to wait while you get that perfect shot. I recommend strapping a GoPro to your chest or head and just film the entire hike from Scout Lookout to the summit. Many of my photos are stills from those videos.
Start early
If you snag a “Before 9 am” permit, try to begin your hike as early as possible to beat the crowds and secure parking at the trailhead. Starting early also allows you to hike during the cooler part of the day.
Check weather conditions
Prior to your hike, check the weather forecast for Zion National Park. Avoid hiking Angel's Landing during inclement weather or if there is a chance of thunderstorms. No one wants to be climbing slippery rocks.
Wear appropriate footwear
Choose sturdy hiking shoes or boots with good traction to navigate the rocky and steep terrain. Avoid open-toed shoes or sandals.
Bring grippy gloves
In extremely cold or extremely hot temperatures, the chains on The Spine can be hard to hold onto. A good set of gloves with grippers might help you hold onto the chains in those conditions.
Bring plenty of water
It's essential to stay hydrated during the hike to Angels Landing. Carry an ample supply of water, as there are no water sources along the trail. We recommend a hydration backpack so that you don’t have to mess with unscrewing a water bottle and your hands can stay free during the climb.
Use sunscreen and wear a hat
Protect yourself from the sun's rays by applying sunscreen before the hike and wearing a hat to shield your face and neck. It got windy near the summit so be sure and hold onto your hat as well.
Pack snacks and food
Bring energy-boosting snacks and/or a packed lunch to fuel yourself during the hike. It's important to maintain your energy levels throughout the challenging trail.
Take a break at Scout Lookout
Scout Lookout provides an excellent resting point. Take breaks here to catch your breath, enjoy the views, and prepare mentally for the more challenging section ahead. (And don’t forget to use the potty…. if you have to)
Hike within your comfort level
Angel's Landing is not recommended for individuals with a fear of heights or those who are not comfortable with exposed trails. Assess your hiking abilities and decide if this trail is suitable for you. IT’S OKAY TO TURN AROUND!
Leave no trace
Follow the principles of Leave No Trace and respect the natural environment. Carry out all your trash and avoid damaging vegetation or disturbing wildlife.
Celebrating at the Zion Brewpub in Springdale after hiking Angels Landing
12. Treat Yourself
Be sure and celebrate after your hike to Angels Landing. We headed to the Zion Brewing Brewpub in Springdale after our hike.
In the words of Tom Haverford: Treat Yo’ self!
Broad Mod: RV Cab Separator
To keep our puppies out of the driving area, Kasie designed this 48”-tall wall. It’s made of plywood covered in some peel-and-stick wall paper. The plywood is screwed into the “wing-walls” of the cab and a small frame that she built at the bottom of the cab opening. From right to left, the panels are 36”, 22”, and 22” wide.
While we love our dogs, they also love climbing into the driver and passenger seat in our RV (a 2022 Entegra Accolade XL 37L). We still have two puppies and they like to chew on everything! That’s a problem insofar as we keep several gadgets with chewable cords in the driving area.
To keep our puppies out of the driving area, Kasie designed this 48”-tall wall. It’s made of plywood covered in some peel-and-stick wall paper. The plywood is screwed into the “wing-walls” of the cab and a small frame that she built at the bottom of the cab opening. From right to left, the panels are 36”, 22”, and 22” wide.
The door opens to the cab area.
We prop the door open on travel days so that we have easy access to the RV living area. Importantly, we have to remember to open the door BEFORE retracting our slides! If the first panel would have been roughly 39” wide, that issue could have been avoided. Thus, our advice is to do some measuring for your particular rig with the slides retracted before the build.
Overally, it’s a pretty clever design, and we have not had any issues with it after traveling a few thousand miles.
Part of the 2.5”-wide frame behind the passenger seat.
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Things to Do (and NOT to Do) in Zion National Park (besides Angels Landing & the Narrows)
Thinking of visiting Zion National Park? The most famous hikes are probably Angels Landing and The Narrows. However, the 5.4 mile hike to and from Angels Landing requires a much-sought-after permit and nerves of steel to make the crazy climb. As for The Narrows, it’s basically a long and VERY WET walk in the Virgin River bed, and the hike is often closed because of flooding or risky because of toxic cyanobacteria bloom.
Luckily, there are plenty of other cool things to see and do in Zion National Park! We visited the park for four days, and here’s our top things to do (and not do) when visiting.
The Narrows at Zion National Park is closed if the water flow exceeds 150 cubic feet per second
Thinking of visiting Zion National Park? The most famous hikes are probably Angels Landing and The Narrows. However, the 5.4 mile hike to and from Angels Landing requires (1) a much-sought-after permit and (2) nerves of steel to make the crazy climb. As for The Narrows, it’s basically a long and VERY WET walk in the Virgin River bed, and the hike is often closed because of flooding or risky because of toxic cyanobacteria bloom.
Luckily, there are plenty of other cool things to see and do in Zion National Park! We visited the park on several days during our five-week stay in the area, and here’s our top things to do (and not do) when visiting Zion National Park.
Our Top Things to Do in Zion National Park (other than Angels Landing and The Narrows)
1. Drive Through the Zion-Mount Carmel Tunnel.
Vehicles are not allowed on most of the roads in Zion National Park. The one exception is the scenic drive along the Zion-Mount Carmel highway, which includes a 1.1-mile tunnel constructed in 1930. The tunnel features a series of windows and openings called "galleries," which provide short glimpses of the surrounding canyon and cliffs. The windows also serve as an outlet for vehicle exhaust because the tunnel has no ventilation system. It’s a remarkable feat of engineering!
Window in the Zion-Mount Carmel Tunnel
Checkboard Mesa Pull-Over on the Zion-Mount Carmel Scenic Drive
When traveling through the Zion-Mount Carmel Tunnel, there are a few important considerations to keep in mind:
No stopping. Not even for photos. Let me say this again. YOU CANNOT STOP IN THE TUNNEL!
Vehicle Restrictions. The tunnel has specific vehicle restrictions due to its size. Vehicles longer than 40 feet (12.2 meters) or taller than 13.5 feet (4.1 meters) are not permitted to pass through. This limitation is necessary because the tunnel has narrow sections and tight curves.
Traffic Control. Due to the tunnel's narrowness, a traffic control system is in place to ensure safe passage. During our visit, vehicles were only permitted to travel through the tunnel in one direction at a time. This involves alternating traffic flow controlled at each end of the tunnel.
Oversized Vehicles (like RVs). If you are traveling with a large RV or a vehicle that exceeds the size restrictions, you may need to obtain a special permit from the National Park Service to travel through the tunnel. These permits are limited in number and issued on a first-come, first-served basis.
It's important to note that the tunnel is closed to bicycle and pedestrian traffic. Cyclists and pedestrians are required to take an alternate route through the park.
The tunnel is just part of the scenic drive on the Highway 9 and it’s worth going another 5 miles or so. The distinctive Checkerboard Mesa near the east entrance to Zion National Park is a good turn-around point.
2. Take the Zion Shuttle Bus to the End (Stop #9).
Stop #9 on the Zion Shuttle Bus
To get around most of Zion National Park, you have to take one of the shuttle buses. Luckily, the shuttle buses operate on a regular schedule throughout the day, and we never had to wait in line more than 10 minutes for a shuttle.
Here’s what you need to know: THE SHUTTLE RIDE CAN BE PRETTY AWESOME! Here are some tips for getting the most out of the Zion shuttle bus ride:
Go early. We had the shuttle bus almost to ourselves on a weekday in May before 7:30 am. By 10 am, most of the shuttle buses are packed.
Snag a window seat. Some of the windows open, and the fresh cool morning air is simply wonderful.
Face West. Try to sit on the side of the shuttle bus that faces west. The Virgin River flows adjacent to the shuttle route on the west side, and in the morning the sunlight will strike that side of the canyon.
Listen. An audio tour plays during the shuttle bus ride. The speakers will cover a little bit about the history of the national park, recent flooding disasters, and prominent landmarks.
Be Patient. The scenic ride from the Zion Visitors Center (Stop #1) to the Temple of Sinawava (Stop #9) only takes about 40 minutes. Be patient and enjoy the ride.
3. Hike the Canyon Overlook Trail (My Favorite Hike)
View from the Canyon Overlook Trail at Zion National Park
There are plenty of hikes in Zion National Park along the shuttle bus stops. My favorite hike was not on the bus route but was instead the Canyon Overlook Trail. The trailhead lies just east of the Zion-Mount Carmel Tunnel. The Canyon Overlook Trail is a 1.0-mile out-and-back hike with 163 feet of elevation gain that is considered “moderate” according to the National Parks Service.
The hike starts with some stairs, but pretty soon you will encouter some of the numerous handrails on the trail. About 3/4 of the way in, a short plank bridge leads to a cave-like area that is a great photo op. Yet, the view at the end is what makes the Canyon Overlook hike spectacular. You can see Pine Creek Canyon, Bridge Mountain, the West Temple, the Alter of Sacrifice, the Streaked Wall, and the Temple from the vantage. Hikers also get a birds-eye view of the switchback roads leading to the Zion Mount Carmel tunnel, as well as quick looks at the vehicles traversing the tunnel through a couple of the galleries. Last but not least, hikers can probably make friends couple of rock squirrels near the overlook.
What is the downside to the Canyon Overlook Trail? Parking. There’s a very small parking lot is immediately past the exit of the tunnel. Most people park along the Highway 9 at various points. That may add a 1/4-1/2 mile to your overall hike.
4. Or, Hike the Riverside Walk Trail.
River Walk Trail at Zion National Park
The Riverside Walk trail begins at the Temple of Sinawava (Stop #9), which is the last stop on the park's shuttle system. From there, the trail meanders along the Virgin River for approximately 2.2 miles (3.5 kilometers) round trip. The trail is paved and relatively flat, making it suitable for visitors of all ages and abilities. The trail leads to The Narrows so you can get a taste of what that hike would be like without getting wet or worrying about toxic cyanobacteria. The canyon walls provide shade and help keep the trail cool, even during hot summer months. The lush vegetation along the trail adds to its natural beauty, with hanging gardens and wildflowers adding bursts of color to the landscape. The Riverside Walk trail was my second favorite hike in Zion National Park.
Things to Skip in Zion National Park
If you have limited time to visit Zion National Park, I’d recommend skipping a few things.
The Visitors Center. While visitors have to board the shuttle buses near the Visitor’s Center, there’s no real need to go inside. The displays and information about the park are pretty minimal, and the need-to-know information is available on one of the park brochures or the NPS mobile app.
The Human History Museum (Stop #2). There are some old school displays about the geology, plants, and people who lived in Zion National Park, but overall, the museum is just plain boring. There’s nothing interactive and the exhibits need a refresh.
Concluding Thoughts on Zion National Park
Sure, Angels Landing and The Narrows get most of the attention. BUT, there’s a lot of other great things to do in Zion National Park. If you are on limited time (like you only have a day to explore the park), our recommendations are (1) driving Highway 9 through the Zion-Mount Carmel Tunnel, (2) enjoying the ENTIRE shuttle bus route from Stop #1 to Stop #9, and (3) hiking one of the scenic trails (like the Canyon Overlook Trail or the River Walk Trail).
$100K in Full-Time RV First Year Costs
How much does it cost to live full time in an RV? We started full-time without any sort of budget a year ago. We were SHOCKED – shocked, I tell you — to learn just how much full-time RVING costs. As "newbie" full-time RVers, we go over the REAL annual cost of full-time RVing in this video.
How much does it cost to live full time in an RV? We started full-time RVing without any sort of budget a year ago. We were SHOCKED – shocked, I tell you — to learn just how much full-time RVing costs. As "newbie" full-time RVers, we go over the REAL annual cost of full-time RVing in this video.
Remarkably, the total cost was close to $100,000!
And, these expenses and costs don't even include the cost of buying our RV!
In this video, we detail our first year expenses as full-timers as a family of two (with five dogs). We break the costs down by:
Campground / RV park costs and fees
One-time RV supplies (for mods and other things to make the RV our own)
RV supplies (those that we will purchase repeatedly)
RV gas
Towed vehicle gas
Towed vehicle costs / maintenance
Insurance (RV, towed vehicle,
Telephone & internet
Memberships (e.g., America’s Mailbox, Harvest Hosts)
Groceries / breweries / restaurants (food and beer)
Moving expenses
Storage expenses
Entertainment
Healthcare
Pet care
Class C Broads (our Youtube and website expense)
Miscellaneous (charitable giving, gifts, hobbies, accounting fees, hair cuts, etc.)
We know that living costs vary greatly from RVer to RVer. We know that couples and families will have wildly different expenses. We also know that folks can full-time RV for a lot cheaper than we do. Among other things, the cost will vary depending upon:
Preferred type of camping (e.g., private campgrounds vs. state parks)
Whether you are willing to camp host
Boondocking frequency
Length of stay (daily, weekly, monthly)
Miles driven
Family size
Type of RV (e.g. our RV is “all electric” and does not use propane)
Overall lifestyle
This last factor is probably the most variable. We didn’t start RVing to save money. Instead, we wanted to travel to visit family, explore fun locations, and experience life! We trying to make reasonable decisions about our expenditures, but if there is a “bucket list” item we want to do or a place to stop on our route, we spend the money. For example, we love checking out the local craft brewery, and in this past year, we visited 93 craft breweries!
The bottom line is that at least for us, RVing isn’t cheap.
Cheers!
Grand Canyon Railway
All aboard the Grand Canyon Railway! If you're looking for a unique way to travel to the Grand Canyon from Williams Arizona, then this train ride is the perfect journey for you. Sure, it’s a little pricey, cheesy, and loooonnnnggg, but we were glad we did it. So, sit back, relax, hold on to your cowboy hats, and we’ll tell you what else you need to know.
All aboard the Grand Canyon Railway! If you're looking for a unique way to travel to the Grand Canyon from Williams Arizona, then this train ride is the perfect journey for you. Sure, it’s a little pricey, cheesy, and loooonnnnggg, but we were glad we did it. So, sit back, relax, hold on to your cowboy hats, and we’ll tell you what else you need to know.
Is there Pre-Ride Entertainment for the Grand Canyon Railway?
Before the train ride, the Grand Canyon Railway treats passengers to a 20-minute western show that starts around 9:00 am. The backdrop of the show are the building facades for a telegraph office, bank, livery, hotel, and jail from the 1880s. We enjoyed some fancy rope-twirling, gun spinning, and what appeared to be a gunfight by some cowboys. Lots of people in the stands LOVED this (especially the kids). Unfortunately, we could not follow the story-line because the small outdoor speakers for the western show made everyone sound like the teacher from Charlie Brown (but with more “wah wah” and maybe a little less trombone). Understanding the complexities of who-wronged-who-and-why wasn’t necessary to enjoying the gunfight, but it would have been nice.
The western show before the train ride at the Grand Canyon Railway
One of the cowboys shoots a prop gun at the Grand Canyon Railway
How is the Ride on the Grand Canyon Railway?
Near the tracks of the Grand Canyon Railway
There are three things you should know about the train ride itself.
First, the train moves slowly.
Say that again. The train moves vvveeerrrryyy ssssllloowwwlly. The 65-mile trip takes around two hours and 15 minutes. You can drive a car from Williams to the Grand Canyon Visitor Center in about half the time. The ride is meant to be relaxing, not efficient.
Second, your national park time is limited.
Because so much of the day is taken up actually riding on the train, that leaves relatively little time to explore the national park itself. We had roughly 3.5 hours, and used most of that to eat our packed lunch and walk the 2.8-mile Trail of Time.
Third, after boarding the train, it’s sorta boring.
The scenery on the train ride isn’t as spectacular as some of the reviews might suggest. Sure, you go through part of the Kaibab National Forest, but a lot of the ride is just scrub brush and dirt.
What are the Seating Options on the Grand Canyon Railway?
View from our open-air Pullman Class railcar near the Grand Canyon. Most of the ride was NOT this scenic.
There are a few different choices when it comes to where you'll be sitting on the train. (Prices are from 2023.)
Pullman Class.
$32.50/person (one-way). This Harriman style coach care feature windows that slide open and no air conditioning.
Coach Class.
$41.00/person (one-way). This option bench-style seating and air conditioning.
First Class.
$79.50/person (one-way). The website notes that this features “oversized, reclining seats, and grand picture windows that enhance the scenic journey” and complementary snacks.
Observation Dome.
$94.50 (one-way). This is pretty much the same as the “first class” except that you are seated on a higher level with dome windows.
PRO TIP: Importantly, you can mix-and-match seats, meaning that you don’t have to sit in the same class on the way to the Grand Canyon and on the way back to Williams.
What are the “Best” Seats on the Grand Canyon Railway?
Personally, I think the best seats on the Grand Canyon Railway are the cheapest ones: the Pullman Class. We chose to ride the Pullman Class on the way to the Grand Canyon because the high temperatures were in the 70s that day. I loved being able to open the windows and enjoy some of the cool mountain air. We drank some $8/can beers while we chatted up a Canadian couple in the seats behind us.
We wanted to see what spending more money would get us on the train though. On the way back from the Grand Canyon to Williams, we channeled our inner Tom Haverford and decided to treat ourselves to First Class tickets. We didn’t get to choose our seats and were assigned to the Kokopelli traincar. Our upgrade included a self-serve buffet of snacks and non-alcoholic drinks (more on that below). There weren’t any kids in our section so it was nice to just relax and shut our eyes on the way home.
The “First Class” Kokopelli train car on the Grand Canyon Railway. The observation dome seats are shown as well.
I was glad to experience both seating options, but I wouldn’t get First Class tickets again and would instead just stick with the Pullman Class (weather permitting). I just didn’t think that the differences were worth $57.
What Kind of Food and Drinks are Available on the Grand Canyon Railway?
The food and drinks available (and what you pay for them) all depend on your seat class. Nothing was included in our basic Pullman Coach seats, but there was a café car right next to us that featured basic snacks like candy bars, chips, and ice cream, as well as soft drinks and beer. Even though it was just 10 am, Kasie hopped over to the cafe car surprise me with some $8/can craft beers: a Jack Wagon Hazy IPA from Historic Brewing Company (Williams AZ) for me and a Railhead Red from Lumberyard Brewing (Flagstaff AZ) for her. Don’t judge.
Our First Class ride included a buffet of cheese cubes, sliced meats, fruits, vegetables, coffee, soft drinks, lemonade, and hot cocoa. However, alcohol was still not included in the ticket price. We were actually too tired for beer so stuck with the “freebie” soda on the ride home.
Importantly, all food and drinks must be purchased using a credit card (no cash).
What Kind of Entertainment is on the Grand Canyon Railway?
The Grand Canyon Railway is mostly about getting folks from Point A to Point B, but they do manage to provide a little cowboy entertainment.
One of the cowboy’s sings Wagon Wheel on the return trip on the Grand Canyon Railway
On our ride to the Grand Canyon, a cowboy with a guitar serenaded our railcar for three songs, including Johnny Cash’s “Folsom Prison Blues.” 🎵 I hear the train a comin’…It’s rollin’ round the bend. 🎵 The music was good, but it lasted less than 15 minutes. On the return trip, the musical entertainment didn’t last much longer, even though we were in First Class. We had a different cowboy musician play another three songs, including one of my favorites - Old Crow Medicine Show’s Wagon Wheel.
On the train ride back to Williams, we were told there would be a “surprise” around 5:00 pm and that we should have to make the entertainers work for their money. Sure enough, a couple of cowboys rode up to the train on horses, boarded the train, and then proceeded to fake-rob us all. A few folks in our railcar loved the robbery and really got into it. And, I’m sure that most kids would love it. To me, it just seemed like an elaborate way to collect a little tip money. I would have preferred a few more cowboy songs.
I act like I’m stealing the prop gun during the staged robbery on the Grand Canyon Railway
Overall, the entertainment on the Grand Canyon Railway is pretty good, but limited. That’s largely because it lasts about 15-20 minutes during a ride that is over two hours long. For those traveling with kids, make sure you bring a long some other activities to keep them occupied during the trip.
Is the Grand Canyon Railway Worth it?
For those wanting a day-visit to the Grand Canyon just to see it (but not really explore it), the Grand Canyon Train is a great option. Stick with the cheapest seats — the Pullman Class seats (weather permitting) — and come with a good attitude about the limited entertainment. Don’t forget your cowboy hats (and your tip money) either.
Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona
As fledging bird lovers, we knew that we wanted to visit the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona when we were staying in the area. If you are thinking of exploring the Riparian Preserve, here’s what you need to know…with lots of bird puns and bird jokes.
As fledging bird lovers, we knew that we wanted to visit the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona when we were staying in the area. If you are thinking of exploring the Riparian Preserve, here’s what you need to know…with lots of bird puns and bird jokes.
Where Is the Riparian Preserve?
The Riparian Preserve is located on the corner of Greenfeld and Guadalupe roads about a mile south from the Mesa, Arizona border. The preserve is also is adjacent to the Eastern Canal Trail so many visitors can have a direct flight to the preserve by bike or on foot. Regardless of how you get to the preserve, you are always in for a tweet!
Sign for the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona
One of the seven ponds at the Riparian Preserve in Gilbert Arizona
How Did the Riparian Preserve Get Created?
Once upon a feather, the area was just a dry and barren land, but thanks to a group of water conservation and dedicated bird enthusiasts, they saw the potential to make it a true nest-ination for our feathered friends.
You see, in 1986, the Gilbert City Council decided that it wanted to reuse 100 precent of the city’s effluent water. When the stored the treated wastewater in a pond at Cooper and Elliot roads, the city officials also noticed that the pond attracted birds. And of course, birdwatchers also flocked to the area.
When the city needed another wastewater storage facility, it created the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in 1999. The 110-acre Riparian Preserve consists of (1) seven water recharge basins or “ponds” and (2) a dedicated fishing pond known as “Water Ranch Lake.” Treated water is delivered to the ponds through a series of pipelines and is distributed to the various ponds and channels via a network of valves and gates. The treated water in the ponds percolates into an aquifer where it is stored for future use. Visitors can explore the Riparian Preserve through a network of 4.5 miles of trails.
During my visits, my feathers got a little ruffled when I saw that a couple of ponds were nearly dry when they had been full just days before. It turns out that the city drains the basins periodically to allow a tractor to turn over some of the dirt at the bottom so that the soil is not as compacted and it can better absorb the water.
Pond 3 was almost dry during one visit to the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona
Valves control the treated water effluent that goes into the seven ponds at the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona
How Busy is the Riparian Preserve?
The Riparian Preserve is a fairly busy place. The parking lot is fairly small, but there is additional parking next door at the Gilbert Library and direct access to the Riparian Preserve trails from the library.
On most days that we visited the Riparian Preserve, we would encounter large groups of children around mid-morning. So, be prepared to hear a lot of "Wow, look at that bird!" and "Mom, Dad, come see this one!" I also really enjoyed overhearing some of the children’s questions., like: "Why do birds fly?" "Where do they go when it rains?" "Do they have families like we do?" And my personal favorite, "Do birds have birthdays?"
What Kind of Birds and Wildlife Are at the Riparian Preserve?
Have I mentioned that the Riparian Preserve is an absolute nest-cessity for any bird and animal lover?
The ponds and lake at the Riparian Preserve support a variety of plant and animal life, and each of the ponds are designed to mimic natural wetlands and are engineered to create a complex ecosystem that includes shallow water areas, deep pools, and areas of emergent vegetation. For example, one area was designated as a “cottonwood-willow riparian forest” with several cottonwood trees actively shedding their “cotton” during a couple of my visit. The different habitats support a diverse range of aquatic and terrestrial species, including birds, fish, turtles, and insects.
Bee polinates a coneflower at the Riparian Preserve in Gilbert, Arizona
As we migrated our way through the Riparian Preserve, yellow coneflowers dotted much of the 4.5 miles of trails. Bees, humming birds, dragonflies, and other pollinators danced among the flowers. Perhaps the most abundant non-bird creature were the dozens and dozens of desert cottontails. We saw them by the carton.
At a couple of the ponds, we spotted a great blue heron, great egret, and snowy egret. The black necked stilt, long billed dowitcher, least sandpiper, killdeer, and avocet all bobbed up and down at a few other ponds. There were two areas of the Riparian Preserve that stood out for me:
First, near the parking lot of the Riparian Preserve, there’s some covered outdoor gathering spaces as well as a dozen or so Saquaro cactuses. There, we saw several starlings, gila woodpeckers, and doves were making their home in the Saguaro cactuses
Second, as we walked southwest to Water Ranch Lake (a/k/a Arizona Fish and Game Community Fishing Pond a/k/a “Duckingham Palace”), we were greeted with hundreds of ducks that were as friendly as Daffy. Because visitors are allowed to feed the birds in this area of the park, the ducks and pigeons didn’t mind getting close to anyone. I nearly quacked aloud when I saw a Mallard with this cotton-ball like tuft on its head chasing another duck. After I watched this game of fowl play for a few minutes, I noticed that an American pekin also had a similar tufted crown. Turns out, these were both “crested” ducks who were heterozygous for a dominant genetic mutation causing a deformity of the skull. The exact origin of the Crested duck is unknown, but they have been around since before the 1600s.
Crested mallard at the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona
Crested duck at the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona
Bird Joke: What’s another name for a crested duck? A quackhead.
When Is the Best Time to Visit the Riparian Preserve?
During our visits in March and April 2023, Arizona was experiencing an unusually wet and cool spring. Although our time at the Riparian Preserve was usually in the early morning when the bird watching is considered to be the best, the 70-85 degree temperatures allowed for some good birding almost any time of day.
Bird Joke: What did the birdwatcher say when it was so hot outside that they could barely see the birds through the heatwaves? "I'm having a hawk-ward time spotting anything!"
Observatory at the Riparian Preserve at Water Ranch in Gilbert, Arizona
On Friday and Saturday evenings, the Gilbert Rotary Centennial Observatory at the Riparian Preserve is open to the public. I suspect that as the days get hotter, the cooler evenings would be a great time to great time see the birds and stars.
Bird Joke: What did the bird say when it looked through the telescope? "Eagle-eye!"
Bird Joke: What do you call a group of birds that loves astronomy? The Night-Owls!
How Much Does it Cost to Visit the Riparian Preserve?
You can go on the cheep. Its’ free.
Shorebirds at the Riparian Preserve in Gilbert, Arizona
Should You Go to the Riparian Preserve?
I highly recommend taking a stroll through the Riparian Preserve if you want to have a hoot with some of the coolest birds around. It's a place where you can really spread your wings and enjoy the natural beauty of our feathered friends. So why not flock to the Riparian Preserve today? You won't egret it!
Camelback Mountain - Cholla Trail vs. Echo Canyon Trail
Camelback Mountain, located in the heart of the Phoenix metro area, is known for its distinctive shape, which….wait for it….resembles the hump of a camel. Personally, I also think the mountain got its name because any one who dares hike it should come equipped with a Camelbak hydration backpack!…..Which trail was harder (Cholla Trail vs. Echo Canyon Trail)? I think the answer depends on what you think is “hard” about a trail.
About Camelback Mountain
Camelback Mountain, located in the heart of the Phoenix metro area, is known for its distinctive shape, which….wait for it….resembles the hump of a camel. Personally, I also think the mountain got its name because any one who dares hike it should come equipped with a Camelbak hydration backpack!
The mountain rises to a height of 2,704 feet and offers stunning views of the surrounding desert landscape. There are two main trails to the summit: Echo Canyon Trail and the Cholla Trail. Both are rated as “DOUBLE BLACK DIAMOND” hiking trails, which means that they feature steep inclines, rocky terrain, narrow paths, and other obstacles that require a high degree of skill, experience, and physical fitness to overcome. These trails are often reserved for experienced hikers who are comfortable with scrambling, bouldering, and other advanced techniques. In other words, NOT US!
Camelback Mountain in Phoenix Arizona (photo taken from South Mountain)
If Justin Timberlake were to tell you about hiking Camelback Mountain, it might go something like this.
I'm hikin’ Camelback (yeah)
I’m strappin’ a big hydration pack (yeah)
I’m getting tired, might have a heart attack (yeah)
Cause this diamond is a double black (yeah)
Take me to the summit.
Way up high (uh-huh)
With you baby, I’ve gotta try (uh huh)
To the top, let’s actualize (uh huh)
My calves hurt, just like my thighs (uh huh)
Take me to the chorus.
Get your hikin’ on (Go ‘head be gone)
At the break of dawn (Go ‘head be gone)
Climb those rocks (Go ‘head be gone)
In your sweaty socks (Go ‘head be gone)
Let’s hike that hill (Go ‘head be gone)
Just need self-will (Go ‘head be gone)
View the town (Go ‘head be gone)
Then scoot back down (Go ‘head be gone)
I’m hikin’ Camelback (yeah)
Climbing boulders on every path (yeah)
Can’t figure out my angle of attack (yeah)
No blue reflector, Guess I’m off the track (yeah)
Take me to the summit.
Can I sing like JT? You can be the judge by watching this video.
Spoiler: I’m no Justin Timberlake.
Cholla Trail on Camelback Mountain
Cholla Trailhead at Camelback Mountain. The trail is a black double-diamond.
The Cholla Trail is a popular hiking trail on Camelback Mountain. It’s considered the easier of the two major trails, and so that was the one that we decided to do (duh!). The trail is located on the eastern side of the mountain and is 1.47 miles long with a gain of 1350 feet. for steep, rocky terrain and bring plenty of water and sunscreen.
The trail begins at the Cholla Trailhead, located just off of Invergordon Road. Parking for the trail is along the road. There are several areas with "NO PARKING" signs or red curbs where cars may not be parked. Depending on the time of day, cars for the trail may be parked as much as a mile away. We arrived mountain around 8:00 am on a Friday, and had to park nearly a half-mile away from the trailhead.
The trail starts with a gentle climb that gradually becomes steeper. Thirty-six numbered signposts help tell hikers how far they have gone (and how far they have to go). The first 2/3 of the trail is relatively easy and we rarely had to use our hands for climbing. However, the final section of the trail is the most challenging, with steep, rocky terrain that requires careful footing and rock scrambling. Reflective blue markers help tell folks like us the best route and how to stay on the trail.
Rock Scrambling on the Cholla Trail at Camelback Mountain
Along the Cholla Trail at Camelback Mountain (Phoenix Arizona)
I’m not an experience hiker, and the Cholla Trail was by far the hardest hike I had ever done. Honestly, there were sections of the Cholla Trail where I thought it might be best to just stop and turn around. I watched the route that the experienced hikers took to figure out where exactly to put my feet and hands. I also made sure to just focus on the climb and not look down! Step by step, I was pretty proud when I actually got to the top.
DISCLAIMER AND WARNING: HIKING THE CHOLLA TRAIL IS HARD. DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!
At the Summit of Camelback Mountain. Can you see us?
The summit of Camelback Mountain offers stunning views of the surrounding desert landscape. We enjoyed seeing the city of Phoenix to the west and the Superstition Mountains to the east. However, I think the best part of the summit was the comradery of the fellow hikers. Everyone was just so darn happy to make it to the summit. The summit is quite crowded though. EVERYONE, and I mean everyone, is taking selfies and snapping photos. Luckily, a couple of hikers where kind enough to share some Camelback summit drone footage with us to help commemorate our feat!
I was also quite nervous about hiking DOWN the Cholla Trail on Camelback Mountain. On the way down, I wouldn’t necessarily be able to avoid looking down. While I did spend a lot of time on my butt-scooting down some of the rocks, it wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be.
Echo Canyon Trail on Camelback Mountain
Having successfully summited the Cholla Trail, we decided to two-hump our hiking adventures and climb the Echo Canyon Trail about two weeks later.
The Echo Canyon Trail is reportedly the most popular trail on Camelback Mountain, but it seemed less busy to us than the Cholla Trail. The trail is located on the northern side of the mountain and is about 1.2 miles long. The trail is steep and rocky, with an elevation gain of 1,264 feet. After hiking the Cholla Trail, we decided to up our game even more and hike the Echo Canyon Trail.
The trail begins at the Echo Canyon Trailhead, which is located at the end of Echo Canyon Parkway. There is a large parking lot at the trailhead, but it fills up quickly on weekends and holidays. The trail starts with a series of switchbacks that lead to a set of wooden stairs along a chain-linked fence. The stairs are a challenging climb, but they provide stunning views of the valley below. Not too far after the stairs, the steepness of the trail increases so much that there are metal railings anchored into the mountain to grab onto. The final section of the trail is the most challenging, with steep, rocky terrain that requires careful footing and a lot of rock scrambling.
Like the Cholla Trail, there are 36 numbered markers that help tell hikers how much further they have to go. The markers are not spaced evenly apart, which was pretty apparent given that I was able to take a photo of marker 32 and marker 33 together!
I hold on to the railing on the Echo Canyon Trail at Camelback Mountain while Kasie looks on from above :-)
Marker 32 and 33 on the Echo Canyon Trail on Camelback Mountain in Phoenix Arizona
Which Camelback Mountain Trail was Harder (Cholla Trail vs. Echo Canyon Trail)?
I think the answer depends on what you think is “hard” about a trail.
For me, I think that the Cholla Trail was harder for a couple of reasons. First, it was my first real “hike” and I was frankly, just scared to death most of the way. It just felt “hard” because I had never done something like that before. After successfully summiting Camelback Mountain on the Cholla Trail, I had a lot more confidence to tackle the Echo Canyon Trail, which made it “easier” to me. Second, I also think that the drop-offs along the Echo Canyon Trail don’t appear as steep as those along the Cholla Trail. Where there are drop-offs on the Echo Canyon Trail, there’s usually a fence or railing that made me feel a lot more secure. And, because I had to focus so much on where to put each foot on the Echo Canyon Trail, that meant I little time to actually think about just how high we were on the mountain.
Summit of Camelback Mountain in Phoenix Arizona
On the other hand, for those wanting a work-out and a rock scramble, I think that the Echo Canyon Trail is more challenging. The trail is much steeper, and is up-up-up with little or no reprieve during the hike. Most of the hike is technical rock scrambling, and my knees were killing me, especially on the hike down. I felt much more worn out physically after the Echo Canyon Trail hike.
Regardless of the path taken, getting to the summit is always rewarding! I’m glad to check climbing the hump off my bucket-list.
DISCLAIMER AND WARNING: HIKING THE ECHO CANYON TRAIL IS HARD. DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Dolly Steamboat in Apache Junction
Ahoy there! We recently took a ride on the Dolly Steamboat (Apache Junction, Arizona). Let me tell you, it was a hull lot of fun!
Ahoy there! We recently took a ride on the Dolly Steamboat (Apache Junction, Arizona). Let me tell you, it was a hull lot of fun!
How Did the Dolly Steamboat Get Its Name?
At the Dolly Steamboat on Canyon Lake (Apache Junction)
Steamboat Dolly’s namesake goes back to the first owners, Paul and Dolly Kennedy first set sail on the Steamboat Dolly in 1983. They sold the business shortly thereafter in 1987 to siblings Jeff and Cindi Grimh, who are still the owners.
Where is the Dolly Steamboat?
The Dolly Steamboat traverses Canyon Lake, which is located in the Superstitious Mountains in the Tonto National Forrest. The marina for the steamboat is about a hour drive east from Phoenix.
The drive to the Dolly Steamboat includes a scenic section along Highway 88 (Apache Trail). During our visit in April 2023, the hillsides were dotted with thousands of yellow spring flowers. There’s a scenic pull-over just a few miles from Canyon Lake that is worth stopping for a photo or two. Before reaching the marina and boarding area for the Dolly Steamboad, we traveled through two one-way tunnels.
What Tour Should You Take on the Dolly Steamboat?
The Dolly Steamboat offers several types of tours. The most popular option is the 90-minute six-mile narrated Scenic Nature Cruise ($30/person). There's also a Twilight Dinner Cruise ($80/person) that lasts for 2.5 hours and includes a buffet-style dinner, live entertainment, and stunning sunset views.
We opted for 2:00 pm Scenic Nature Cruise on a Wednesday in April. Although our cruise was sold out, we booked about 5 days in advance of the cruise when there were plenty of tickets.
How Do Pick a Seat on the Dolly Steamboat?
Dolly Steamboat on the water at Canyon Lake
For the Scenic Nature Cruise, there’s no assigned seating on the Dolly Steamboat so if you have a big group, it’s best to get there early and get in line at the ticket booth. Passengers are assigned a number at the ticket booth (even if the tickets were purchased online), and the boarding is waves of numbers (e.g. 1-25 board, and then 25-50 board, etc). We were in the third boarding group, and felt lucky to share a table with some a Minnesota couple on the top deck.
For the Twighlight Dinner Cruise, tables are assigned in advance. If you have a preference of where you want to sit, you might want to call to book and see if you can request a certain area.
How is the Ride on the Dolly Steamboat?
Canyon Lake in Arizona on the Dolly Steamboat
With a length of around 100 feet and capacity of around 140 passengers, the Dolly Steamboat is big enough to impress you, but also small enough to give the cruise and intimate feel. As soon as we boarded the boat, I could feel my excitement rising like the steam from the engine. Captain Ron Spence (a native Kansas like me) welcomed everyone aboard with a big smile and silky-smooth voice. He pointed out some western grebe and mallards around the boat as the three-person crew greeted the passengers.
About half of the seats are covered inside the Dolly Steamboat, and that’s also where you can find small concession bar. While passengers can choose from chips, nuts, crackers, and cookies, I recommend the freshly popped buttered popcorn. I managed to consume the $10 big tub with no problem. The bar also offers a decent selection of beers (Bud Light, Michelob Ultra, Shock Top, Four Peaks Kiltlifter) and mixed drinks (Bloody Mary, gin and tonic, etc) for a reasonably priced $7.
With a few minutes, we set sail on the beautiful Canyon Lake. The scenery was shore-ly breathtaking, with towering cliffs and stunning rock formations surrounding us. Arizona had been experiencing an exceptionally wet and cool spring, and that made the surroundings remarkably green. Even though I think of cactuses as desert plants, we saw a few Saguaros right by the shore line
Big Horn Rams on Canyon Lake (Dolly Steamboat)
During the ride, we were lucky enough to see some wildlife, including a bald eagle and bighorn sheep. I was so excited, I almost leaped out of my seat like a trout! Make sure and bring binoculars because otherwise, the animals are hard to see.
What surprised me the most about the Dolly Steamboat cruise was just how much I loved Captain Ron. Not only was very knowledgeable about the Canyon Lake and its inhabitants, she shared a few funny stories and jokes in his delightful radio voice. I could have listened to him all day.
Is the Dolly Steamboat Cruise Worth It?
Overall, I had a whale of a time on the Dolly Steamboat. It's a boat-tiful way to spend a day. At just $30/person, I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a fin-tastic adventure near Phoenix, Arizona. Don't miss out on this steamazing experience!
Organ Stop Pizza - What to Know
Hold on to your hats and get your toes ready to tap…because Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa, Arizona is not your average pizza joint. The business, which has been around for over 50 years, is like a cross between a classic mom-and-pop pizzeria and a musical theater - and I mean that in the best way possible.
In fact…ORGAN STOP PIZZA WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE EXPERIENCES in the greater Phoenix Area.
Hold on to your hats and get your toes ready to tap…because Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa, Arizona is not your average pizza joint. The business, which has been around for over 50 years, is like a cross between a classic mom-and-pop pizzeria and a musical theater - and I mean that in the best way possible.
In fact…ORGAN STOP PIZZA WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE EXPERIENCES in the greater Phoenix Area.
Check out our video to see just how amazing Organ Stop Pizza is!
How is the Menu at Organ Stop Pizza?
Organ Stop Pizza made our pepperoni and mushroom pizza for under $25
Organ Stop Pizza truly hits all the right notes when it comes to its menu! Simply put, Organ Stop Pizza serves some decent pizza. There’s nothing fancy to choose from -- just basic toppings like cheese, pepperoni, sausage, ham, beef, bacon, mushroom, black olives, green peppers, and onion – but the food is reasonably priced and good. Our large two-topping mushroom and pepperoni pizza was less than $25.00 (with tax). Basic sandwiches, a salad bar, and several classic apps are also available.
The beer selection and prices are equally good. In addition to domestics like Bud Light ($5.75) and Michelob Ultra ($6.25), the menu features some local craft brewery favorites like Four Peaks Kilt Lifter (Scottish style ale) and the Joy Bus Wow (wheat ale) for $6.75/pint.
Overall, I would describe the menu as great dive bar food. A symphony of classic food and beverages, if you will. Bravo.
How is the Service at Organ Stop Pizza?
Our receipt from Organ Stop Pizza
The service at Organ Stop Pizza isn’t fancy either. Patrons order and beverages at a counter, receive a number, and then seat themselves in the auditorium along some long tables positioned end-to-end. Two large number-boards in the auditorium tell customers when their food is ready to pick up. Beers and deserts are ordered at the counter as well.
There’s no table service, other than table bussers who clean up and make sure that the tables all have filled napkin dispensers as well as few crushed red pepper and parmesan shakers.
Of some note (get it? “note”?), we didn’t find an easy way to tip the restaurant employees. When we ordered the pizza, there was no tip line on our receipt. We didn’t readily spot a tip jar at the food/beverage counters either. Because bussing the tables seemed to be a group task, it did not seem appropriate to just leave cash on the table.
Spoiler alert: We could (and did) tip the organist.
What is the Seating Like at Organ Stop Pizza?
The balcony seating at Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa Arizona
Several open doorways lead from the food ordering/service areas into the theater and dining area. There’s no assigned seating, and the “good seats” fill up quickly. Thankfully, there’s probably not a bad seat on the main floor. While there’s ample seating in the balcony area, the balcony isn’t tiered so all of the balcony’s “good seats” for watching the performances are next to the balcony railings.
We arrived at about 4:30 on a Wednesday afternoon and felt lucky to find a couple of seats on a shared table near the back on the main floor where we could both watch and listen to the performances without any major obstructions. And WOW, what an experience.
What Organ is used at the Organ Stop Pizza?
Our view from the back of the auditorium at Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa, Arizona
The star of the Organ Stop Pizza is, of course, the 1927 Mighty Wurlitzer organ and the talented organists who make Organ Stop Pizza a must-stop. The organ console is positioned in on am 8000-lb rotating platform that sits in the center of 700-seat auditorium filled with hungry music lovers. That’s right…it rotates!
The Mighty Wurlitzer isn’t your grandma’s church organ, for sure. The organ has 1,074 keys, buttons, and switches linked to about 6,000 pipes. SIX THOUSAND!
Fun Fact: As of 2022, the Mighty Wurlitzer is valued at more than $6 million!
A number of clear shutter-like panels and other opening allow patrons to see many of the pipes. The organ is also linked to number of percussion instruments (gong, cymbals, cowbells, base drums, etc.) on the walls.
Although most people stay in their seats during a performance unless they are getting food or finding a seat, I took the time to wander about the auditorium during a couple of songs and get closer to some of the pipes and other instruments. A trumpet en chamade (trumpet pipes mounted horizontally instead of vertically) mounted on the back wall of the balcony area gave me chills when I passed it. As the sound changed during my route, I truly began to appreciate the majesty of the Mighty Wurlitzer!
How does the Mighty Wurlitzer Organ Work?
Organ Stop Pizza created a great ~25-minutes video for folks like me who want to know more about how the organ actually works. Some of the main components include:
1. Pipes.
Balcony view of the pipes on the left side of the Console at Organ Pipe Pizza in Mesa Arizona
Each pipe in the Mighty Wurlitzer produces a single note, but the pipes are arranged in sets known as ranks. The pipes mimic various instruments, ranging from a tuba to a flute. The largest pipe is over 3 feet in diameter, over 36 feet tall and weighs a ton. The smallest pipe is a ¼” in diameter, 7 inches tall, and weighs 4 ounces. The 32-foot diaphones are visible from the front of the building,
Organ Stop Pizza boasts the the largest Theatre Pipe Organ of any type to ever be assembled!
2. Blowers.
Four motor-driven blowers provide pressurized air to the organ pipes of the Mighty Wurlitzer. These are housed in a separate blower room that is not visible to patrons.
3. Pressure Regulators.
Pressure regulators that produce air at a precise pressure for a set of pipes. We could see these bouncing up and down during the performance through the lower horizonal clear panels.
5. Tremulants.
These wooden boxes contain a valve that releases air at quick intervals to give the sound its vibrato.
5. Swell Shades.
These shutter-like structures cover the opening from the organ chamber to the auditorium and control the volume of sound escaping the chamber.
6. Console.
In layman’s terms, the console on the Mighty Wurlitzer is really the mother of all motherboards. Among other things, there are four keyboards, each with 61 keyes each, as well as a pedal board with 32 keys. According to Organ Stop Pizza’s website, the sytem also includes “a digital rhythm unit which can be programmed to play many of the organ’s traps and percussion instruments in complex musical arrangements.”
The Console of the Mighty Wurlitzer is the mother of all motherboards!
Organ Pipes are visible thorugh these slatted windows, and several percussion instruments are part of the Wurlitzer organ system as well.
What is the Music Like at Organ Stop Pizza?
The music at Organ Stop Pizza is likely to appeal to most people. The music is a mix of popular songs (Footloose, Queen, YMCA), military medleys, musical numbers (e.g., The Sound of Music, Phantom of the Opera) and movies (Pink Panther). People can also place song requests on both sides of the stage.
The organists at Organ Stop Pizza take requests (and tips!)
My favorite song was the Star Wars Theme. John Williams and George Lucas might even think that the sound at Organ Stop Pizza is better than in a movie theatre. It’s hard to describe just how great the music sounds.
As noted above, my advice is to walk around during one of the performances because the acoustical experience will be different depending on where you are located. I personally think that the acoustics are best in the center of the balcony area.
The show is not just about the music though. A light show accompanies each song, and some props like an American Flag or some creepy looking cat marionettes come out for certain songs.
The organist plays about 30-45 minute sets with about a 15-minute break in between so diners. During our stay in the Mesa area the spring of 2023, either Brent Valliant or Glen Tallar performed on a given night.
What is the Atmosphere Like at Organ Stop Pizza?
Mighty Wurlitzer Organ at Organ Stop Pizza
Given the grandness of the Mighty Wurlitzer, the restaurant could have easily have been something high-end and expensive. The music is so good that in another lifetime, the place could have had a dress code and featured multi-course meals and French wine. Yet, the casualness of the Organ Stop Pizza is part of its charm and draw. Because acceptable attire includes shorts and t-shirts, people probably get exposed to the organ music who otherwise wouldn’t, especially kids.
The atmosphere at the Organ Stop Pizza is what I would call “casually festive.” It’s not unusual for groups to be celebrating birthdays, anniversaries, and other events Organ Stop Pizza.
Is There Anything Bad about Organ Stop Pizza?
Examples of some music instruments (bongs, percussion, piano) connected to the console. Some organ pipes are located in the background.
The short answer is “no,” but here’s a few things to note. First, the place is crowded and noisy. If you don’t want to share a meal with a few hundred people who often talk over the performances, then Organ Stop Pizza might annoy you a little. Second, the place is crawling with kids. It’s a family-friendly pizza joint after all, but it would be nice if perhaps there were “adult only” performances on occasion. Most of the restaurant staff seemed to be under 21 so that might not even be an option. Lastly, there’s a sign saying that while still photos are permitted, videos are prohibited because of the copyrighted music. That prohibition is not enforced as there were dozens of people were taking videos of the performances. Sometimes, it’s best just to sit back and enjoy the music and show (myself included).
Final Thoughts on Organ Stop Pizza
If you're looking for a unique and memorable dining experience, I highly recommend Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa, Arizona. The food is delicious, the atmosphere is casual and relaxed, and the Mighty Wurlitzer and its organ music is simply amazing. I cannot wait to go back and listen to another outstanding performance!
Joshua Tree Song — It Rocks!
After visiting Joshua Tree National Park, I decided to write a song about the Joshua Tree and the numerous named rock formations inside of the park. So get ready to listen to the “Joshua Tree Song.”
About the Joshua Tree Song: We saw most of the famous rocks — like Arch Rock, Arch Rock, Skull Rock, Cap Rock, and Face Rock. We also had some fun coming up with new rock names!
After visiting Joshua Tree National Park, I decided to write a song about the Joshua Tree and the numerous named rock formations inside of the park. We saw most of the famous rocks — like Arch Rock, Arch Rock, Skull Rock, Cap Rock, and Face Rock. We also had some fun coming up with new rock names!
PS: I am not a professional singer or musician. Be kind.
Lyrics to the Joshua Tree Song
VERSE I:
The Mormons crossed
The desert lands
To find a tree
With outstretched hands
And legends says
What they saw
Reminded them
Of Joshua
It’s got no rings
Like other trees
It’s actually part of
The yucca family.
CHORUS I:
I want to be
In Joshua Tree
But it’s a hundred degrees
In the Mojave
Look at that rock
What do you see?
That’s an Elephant
Don’t you agree?
Elephant Rock at Joshua Tree National Park
VERSE II:
There’s trails with rocks
Named Arch and Heart
And another that leads to
Rocks Split apart
There’s a rock that looks
Like a loaf of bread
And another that reminds me of
Big Cone head.
At Skull Rock
The lines are never short
To see a rock that should be
named Voldemort.
CHORUS II:
I want to be
In Joshua Tree
But it’s a hundred degrees
In the Mojave
Look at that rock
What do you see?
That’s a gummy bear
Don’t you agree?
VERSE III:
With spiking leaves
Branching out
And fibrous trunks to
Withstand the drought
This monocot
With its whitish fruit
Can survive the hot
Thanks to deep dense roots.
The Oasis of Mara
Cottonwood Spring
49 Palms
But Josh is King
CHORUS III:
I want to be
In Joshua Tree
But it’s a hundred degrees
In the Mojave
Look at that rock
What do you see?
I think its Grumpy Poo
Don’t you agree?
Grumpy Poo Rock at Joshua Tree National Park
VERSE IV:
We’ll just camp
On BLM land
South of the park
In the sand
From Mastodon Peak
To Barker Dam
I might see
A big horn ram
And Lizards and birds
I think I’ll enjoy a
Garden filled with
Teddy bear cholla
CHORUS IV:
I want to be
In Joshua Tree
But it’s a hundred degrees
In the Mojave
Look at those rocks
What do you see?
Potato, Potatoes
Don’t you agree?
Joshua Tree National Park - How to Visit
In March of 2023, we visited Joshua Tree National Park over the course of three days. Here’s what we learned and what you should know to help plan your visit.
In March of 2023, we visited Joshua Tree National Park over the course of three days. Here’s what we learned and what you should know to help plan your visit.
About Joshua Tree National Park (spoiler: it Rocks)
Joshua Tree National Park is sprawling – close to 800,000 acres. Most visitors travel a loop that includes Highway 62, which is outside of the park, and Park Boulevard Road, which is inside the park. There are several roads that jut out from the main loop with various points of interest.
Heart Rock at Joshua Tree National Park (this rock was obvious!)
The eastern side of the park contains fewer Joshua Trees than the western side of the park. However, there are great hike to see some “destination” rocks along the Skull Rock, Split Rock, and Jumbo Rock trails on the eastern side of the park. For those who travel down Pinto Basin Road, they will be rewarded with the popular Arch Rock trail (which also leads to the Heart Rock Trail) and a spectacular cholla garden that seems to come out of nowhere.
Warning #1: Joshua Tree National Park is Busy
The main trails in Joshua Tree National Park are exceptionally busy. Indeed, it was very difficult to get photos of many of the “destination” rocks without other people in the background. Skull Rock was the worst, and we ultimately gave up trying to get a good selfie there.
Warning #2: Rock Names Can Be Confusing
Sometimes we would see a rock, and think it was THE destination rock, only to find a rock later on our hike that could be THE destination rock as well. For example, on the Split Rock trail, there’s a large rock near the trailhead that we thought was Split Rock. Then, later on, we found what we think is the real Split Rock.
“Split Rock” Near the Split Rock Trailhead at Joshua Tree National Park. Or was it?
What we call “Split Rock” on the Split Rock trail at Joshua Tree National Park
If you haven’t figure it out yet, Joshua Tree is ROCKY. Like…there are rocks EVERYWHERE. We had a ton of fun looking at the rocks, and trying to name some of them. Some of the naming winners included:
Grumpy Poo Rock at Josha Tree National Park
Grumpy poo rock.
Plumbers butt rock.
Gummy Bear rock.
Manscaping rock.
If you watch the video, you can see that this rock-naming game is a ton of fun!
Pro Tip: When all else failed for a rock name, “Baked Potato Rock” usually worked.
Where is the Best Place to See Joshua Trees in Joshua Tree National Park?
Joshua Trees are not located throughout the park. Indeed, much of the park doesn’t have any Joshua Trees from what we could tell.
For visitors who just want to see Joshua Trees up close, I think that the Cap Rock Trail and the Barker Dam trails are the best.
Oases at Joshua Tree National Park
Walking Cottonwood Spring Oasis in Joshua Tree National Park
I expected to see trees at Joshua Tree National Park. But what kind of trees? Joshua Trees (duh!). But palm trees? In the desert?
Joshua Tree National Park is home to five desert fan palm oases. Only 158 desert fan palm oases exist in North America so the Joshua Tree National Park has some braggin’ rights. Luckily, all but one of the oases are accessible via a hike as well.
1. Oasis of Mara
This 0.5-mile looped hike is located at the old visitor’s center on the northeast side of the park. This very small oasis is located before the park entrance so can be hiked without payment of any park fee.
2. Forty-Nine Palms Oasis
Located in the north-central part of the park just off of Highway 62, Forty-nine Palms Oasis is accessible via a 3-mile round-trip hike. This trailhead and oasis itself are located before the park entrance so can be hiked without payment of any park fee. The park seems to close this trail periodically for maintenance or because of the bighorn sheep nesting. It happened to be closed during our visit to the park.
View of Cottonwood Spring Oasis from the Mastodon Peak Trail at Joshua Tree National Park
3. Lost Palms Oasis
Located in the southern part of the park, Lost Palms Oasis is accessible via a strenuous 7.2-mile round-trip hike. We were not ambitious enough to do this hike.
4. Cottonwood Spring Oasis
Located in the southeastern part of the park, Cottonwood Spring Oasis is accessible via short 0.1-mile trail (yes, really short!) from the parking area.
5. Munsen Canyon / Summit Springs Oasis
Located in the southeastern part of the park, Munsen Canyon Oasis is a very dangerous 11.4-mile round-trip hike up and down a mountain. Unless you are a mountain goat, it’s probably best to skip this one. It’s not advertised or listed on the National Park Service website or on many of the hiking mobile app.
How Many Days Does it Take to Visit Joshua Tree National Park?
Our FREE campsite on BLM land just south of Joshua Tree National Park
While most visitors can probably see most of the main attractions in a single day, we opted to spend three days exploring the park.
For those who want to spend more time in the park, there are several campgrounds inside the park, but none of the sites have electricity, water, or sewer. As such, when we decided explore Joshua Tree National Park further, we opted to dry-camp on some BLM land just south of the park for free. This land is right off of I-10, and we could see and hear the traffic on most evenings.
Which Joshua Tree National Park Entrance is Best?
In our opinion, for most visitors, the best place to enter Joshua Tree National Park is from the northeast near the Oasis Visitor Center. We found that the line at the Oasis Visitor Center was about 1/5 as long as the Joshua Tree Visitor Center. The Cottonwood Entrance is too far from the main park loop (at least 45 minutes).
What is a Joshua Tree?
Large Joshua Tree at Joshua Tree National Park
Although called a “tree,” the Joshua Tree lacks many tree-like features. At the Visitor’s Centers at Joshua Tree National Park, we learned that the Joshua Tree (Yucca brevifolia) is a tree-like succulent plant that belongs to the genus Yucca and it is actually in the agave subfamily and asparagus family. The “tree” has a thick, fibrous trunk and branches that form a distinctive, spiky crown. It can grow up to 15-40 feet tall and can live for hundreds of years. Because the Joshua Tree does not have annual growth rings like most trees, scientists usually estimate a Joshua Tree’s age by its height.
The Joshua Tree is native to the Mojave Desert in the southwestern United States, primarily in California, Nevada, Utah, and Arizona. The only place I’ve seen them is within Joshua Tree National Park and some of the areas surrounding the park.
How is the Joshua Tree Different than a Yucca Plant?
Joshua Tree National Park is close to Yucca Valley. And, as noted above, the Joshua Tree is a species of the yucca plant. It was hard for me to tell the difference at first, but I got the hang of it after doing a little research. While many yucca species have a similar appearance to the Joshua Tree, there are some differences.
Joshua Trees and yucca plants at Joshua Tree National Park. Can you tell the difference?
1. Size
Joshua Trees are taller and have a more distinct, branching trunk, while yucca plants are usually smaller and have a single stem with a rosette of leaves.
2. Leaves
The yucca plant has longer, wider leaves compared to the Joshua Tree (up to 4 times longer). Joshua Tree leaves are typically less than a foot and are a little more concave.
The yucca plant has with fibrous threads that curl along the leaf edges, while the Joshua Tree does not.
The spiky leaves of the Joshua Tree grow in clusters at the end of each branch. The leaves of most yucca species usually grow all along the stem rather than just at the end of the branches.
3. Habitat
Joshua Trees are native to the southwestern United States, primarily in the Mojave Desert, while yucca plants are found throughout the Americas, including in desert, grassland, and woodland habitats.
4. Flowers
Both yuccas and Joshua Trees produce white, bell-shaped flowers, but the flowers of Joshua Trees are larger and grow in clusters at the ends of the branches, while yucca flowers are typically smaller and grow on a single stem.
5. Fruit
Joshua Trees produce creamy or greenish fruit that is shaped like a small egg, while yucca plants produce a variety of fruit shapes and colors, depending on the species.
How did Joshua Trees Get Their Name?
Joshua Trees were likely named by Mormons (according to a display at Joshua Tree National Park)
The Joshua Tree was likely named by a group of Mormon settlers who crossed the Mojave Desert in the mid-19th century. The tree's unusual shape reminded them of a biblical story in which Joshua reaches his hands up to the sky in prayer. The branches of the tree, with their gnarled and twisted appearance, seemed to the settlers to resemble Joshua's outstretched arms. As a result, they named the tree after him.
I think the tree looks more like a Franklin. Or maybe Sam. (Don’t ask me why).